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July 19, 2009

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Dear Keyss88,

I have to go with Mr Levine on this one. The lawsuits are seperate from this job appointment. President Lee should indeed consult with the player conference. And what is wrong with wanting to know someone's qualifications for a job?

David

The emsd oversight committee was put together at least five years ago by Tom Lee. This was long before any lawsuits. He had and has no intention of ever letting rank and file recording musicians be involved in any oversight of their business. God forbid . They might question job qualifications or for that matter , nepotism.

My post was in response to Robert's criticism of Tom Lee's allegedly not consulting "any player conference" in regards to the appointment. Robert went out of his way to criticize Tom Lee for this, and my post argues that given the lawsuits, financial attack warchest, etc it may not be reasonable to expect Lee to consult with representatives of folks who are busy suing the federation in federal court.

It seems the lawsuits excuse everything in the Sock's mind. Never mind that it's not the RMA that's suing the AFM; the RMA "represents" folks who are suing the AFM. So does Local 47. Does that mean that Tom never has to consult 47 on anything either? Presumably the lawsuits excuse Tom's failure to consult with RMA before the lawsuits were filed as well.

The consultative role of the players conferences is mandated in IEB policy; it's not an option for the AFM president to exercise whenever he's not mad about something. It's entirely reasonable to expect the AFM president to abide by long-standing IEB policy.

Dear David:

My post was in response to Robert's criticism of Tom Lee's allegedly not consulting "any player conference" in regards to the appointment. Robert went out of his way to criticize Tom Lee for this, and my post argues that given the lawsuits, financial attack warchest, etc it may not be reasonable to expect Lee to consult with representatives of folks who are busy suing the federation in federal court.

Obviously had Robert's post not raised the issue of player conferences allegedly not being consulted, I would not have posted what I did. Robert opened the door on this, I simply felt it might be understandable why Tom Lee did not consult representatives from a group of musicians who are currently engaging in multiple attacks upon the AFM in federal court.

As Robert is so fond of pointing out, I was commenting on the "process", not the personalities involved, as I hope was clear from the post.

Dear Keys88,

The comment was about Terri Cadiente's qualifications for a job, how she was chosen, who was consulted (or not). Instead of attacking the RMA, lawsuits and whatever else bothers you,why don't you just address the issues posed?

Do you, Keys88, whoever you are, know anything about this person's qualifications for the job?

David Finck

If the radical recording musicians wish have a constructive role in decisions like this, they might want to reconsider their choices to amass a financial attack warchest and launch multiple federal lawsuits against the Federation. It is insanity to expect the AFM to "consult" with players who are attacking them in court on multiple fronts.

And please, don't tell me "the RMA isn't suing the federation" - it's the same small group of musicians behind a lot of this, and we've already seen the offer at the RMA/IEB summit last year to "make them all go away" regarding the lawsuits. Clearly the lawsuits are not grass-roots efforts, and anybody who's worked in LA knows that the LA recording elite are a very tight-knit group.

When the recording musicians decided to go to war with the federation, that was a choice they made, and choices - especially choices to sue organizations - come with consequences, given the legally adversarial situation that lawsuits create by their very nature. Lawsuits raise the stakes exponentially in situations like this and put everybody on the defensive. If the recording musicians want to start playing a constructive role in union decisions (instead of a destructive role by suing the federation), I'm sure everyone would welcome that. But it's a choice they have to make: constructive behavior, or destructive behavior.

My suggestion: stop attacking the federation and start working WITH the federation and let's let both sides re-earn the trust of each other without the threat of ongoing lawsuits poisoning the relationship. I'll bet Tom Lee would be open to that, even after all the damage that's been caused by the lawsuits, warchest, PMG, etc. So if Tom Lee is open to this, would Phil Ayling and the RMA be as well? Time to de-escalate things and get back to the business of music.

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